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[jwvanderbeck]

Actually the tags are easy to get if you have a game where you can just go to the NPC.  Just use my Auto Highlight mod and enable the Show Tags feature, then go near the NPC you need the tag for and it will float above their head.

My problem is i've not played much so I haven't progressed enough in the game to get to any of those NPCs.

[jenson]

Actually the tags are easy to get if you have a game where you can just go to the NPC.  Just use my Auto Highlight mod and enable the Show Tags feature, then go near the NPC you need the tag for and it will float above their head.

My problem is i've not played much so I haven't progressed enough in the game to get to any of those NPCs.

Sounds good I'll get your mod and find the tags for you if that will help.

Would it take you long to do it if I got the tags you think?

[Acleacius]

Thanks for your work, jwvanderbeck. 

Here are a couple of number posted a week or so ago in your Nexus thread.

Bella's tag: arl150cr_bella

Kaitlyn, arl110cr_kaitlyn

For some reason I have a problem with the Auto Highlight I can't get the PC to show, so I had waited for an update. It could be I haven't patched to 1.02, just heard so many instances of nuking spells and other bugs, I was just holding off.

Thanks for your motivation jenson.

[jenson]

Thanks for your work, jwvanderbeck.  

Here are a couple of number posted a week or so ago in your Nexus thread.

Bella's tag: arl150cr_bella

Kaitlyn, arl110cr_kaitlyn

For some reason I have a problem with the Auto Highlight I can't get the PC to show, so I had waited for an update. It could be I haven't patched to 1.02, just heard so many instances of nuking spells and other bugs, I was just holding off.

Thanks for your motivation jenson.

Good work man.

I've already modified a lot of WAV files where npcs address you as male even though your female.  I can modify bella's or kaitlyn's voice files if he manages to add this to his gen file.

hehe I wish I knew how to edit the core game files. But nothing in the script makes any sense.  I'm not sure how jwvanerbeck did this.  If I could only get my foot in the door

[jwvanderbeck]

I'm spending today updating all my mods.  Updates have been scarce lately due to most of my free time being spent on DAModder, and the fact that I just couldn't find the energy to update my game and toolset and re-write half my mods

But i'm working on that today.. Already got the game and toolset updated, and i'm starting in on re-creating my mods.

[Avaraen]

I've already modified a lot of WAV files where npcs address you as male even though your female.  I can modify bella's or kaitlyn's voice files if he manages to add this to his gen file.

hehe I wish I knew how to edit the core game files. But nothing in the script makes any sense.  I'm not sure how jwvanerbeck did this.  If I could only get my foot in the door

You don't have to do scripts for this - I know it was necessary pre-1.01 Toolset, but with the latest toolset, you can get to the dialogue directly, create new trees with text & conditions for the appropriate PC sex (or modify conditions on existing dialogue), and then associate the new wav files with the new dialogue lines. I had put together a mod to add kiss options to Leliana and Zevran, among other things, and have been working on adding party banter for it... the toolset really makes it easy, once I figured out how to do it. Maybe scripting is easier for some, or lighter-weight/more easily compatible for the end-user? Just wondering if there is a specific benefit to continuing with the script approach, rather than working with dialogue directly now that we have that option.

[jwvanderbeck]

Yes now that the single player resources are available, this would be better served by someone willing to redo the conversations instead of the hack I did.

[Acleacius]

Completely understandable jwvanderbeck, DAModder is a great program, thanks for your work. It must be hard doing all the programs, when you just want to play. 

[Majii]

You wouldn't happen to know how to make a female romance option for:

Isabela – Denerim, Pearl
Gheyna – Brecilian Forest, Dalish Camp
Kaitlyn – Redcliffe Villiage, Chantry
Bella – Redcliffe Villiage, Tavern
Guard – Fort Drakon, Prison Cell
Anora – Arl Eamon’s Estate, Her Room
Desire Demon – Redcliffe Castle/Fade

I would love to modify the core game files myself to allow this.  Any chance of you providing just a little insight on how to do this?

Do I just open up core game files with the toolset and edit variables accordingly and "flip them" so to say?

I posted this on your other mod listing for Free Love over at the Nexus. Figured I would post it here for others as well.

Kaitlyn (female NPC, Requires Male PC)                 - arl110cr_kaitlyn
Gheyna (Female NPC, Requires Male PC)               - ntb100cr_gheyna
Cammen (Male NPC, Requires Female PC)              - ntb100cr_cammen
Bella (Female NPC, Requires Male PC)                   - arl150cr_bella
Queen Anora (Female NPC, Requires Male PC)        - cli420cr_anora, den510cr_anora, and epi100ar_anora
Desire Demon (Female NPC, Requirement Unknown) - al300cR_demon

For Anora, she is referenced for three times she appears. Cli is for the Climax, den is for Denorem, and epi is the Epilogue.

That seems to be complete list of NPCs that have a male or female check for dialogue/event options. As for the Guard, that appears to be a persuasion check and not a gender check as you can attempt that if you are male or female. As for the desire demon, I've seen videos of sex and of just a kiss. Haven't really experienced myself, but if its the desire demon in the fade during the Arl of Redcliff section then I've listed it above as well. I've seen a video of the sex scene, but cannot find anything in regards to its legitimacy and where it occurs as I have not experienced it first hand.

Edit #1

Yes now that the single player resources are available, this would be better served by someone willing to redo the conversations instead of the hack I did.

Hrm. I just noticed that I had access to the single player resources now. We can just remove the gender checks on the options now.

Edit #2

Fwooooo that's a lot of convo to edit.

[Avaraen]

Fwooooo that's a lot of convo to edit.

There's someone working on a gay Alistair overhaul, and someone working on an f/f Morrigan overhaul, both complete with dialogue and sound edits where appropriate. I'd had the idea to work on both, but since there are projects underway already, it may be just as well to continue using the script hack for now.

[Majii]

Fwooooo that's a lot of convo to edit.

There's someone working on a gay Alistair overhaul, and someone working on an f/f Morrigan overhaul, both complete with dialogue and sound edits where appropriate. I'd had the idea to work on both, but since there are projects underway already, it may be just as well to continue using the script hack for now.

I've gone ahead and made the mod anyways called "Equal Love" and uploaded it to the Nexus yesterday. I've already gone through the audio files for morrigan yesterday and will go through allistair's tonight. Reworking the audio files is the best option, although getting a seamless edit will be fun to try and achieve. After that its easy to update the dialogue and adjust the lip-sync. My plans are Morrigan, then Alistair, and then Anora. If I recall, Kaitlyn, Bella, Gheyna, and Cammen's dialogue is ambiguous enough that it wouldn't break immersion. But how far I'll get with the audio edits before Jensonagain finishes Morrigan lesbian f/f romance voice pack. As to the gay Alistair overhaul, it is a much larger and auspicious project than simply making the gender restricted paths available to both genders.

And now I apologize to jwvanderbeck for briefly hijacking the thread for his own mod.

[jenson]

Majii,

Yea I don't want to hijack jwvanderbeck's post. But  let's keep in mind that he is the pioneer who inspired all this. I hope he doesn't mind!

I scrapped my previous project now that the toolset is available.  I've finally got my head around this toolset.

Here is what I've finished for Female/Female:

- Iona (one line with reworked audio, 1 cutscene)
- Cousland Mother (few extra lines with reworked audio, 1 cutscene)
- Bella (stripped out restrictions and allowed player to get a heroes welcome whenever they want, edited some sound files to remove addressing player as man)
- Kaitlyn (a few extra lines,two cutscenes, some reworked audio)
- Desire Demon in Circle Tower (1 awesome cutscene, song, reworked audio and a few lines
plus reworked audio for companion comments on what you're doing lol)

I've added subtle changes and of course things corresponding to hot lesbian activity. However I didn't go so over the top so that things feel out of place.  Nor did I change a whole bunch of lines if you know what I mean. I added and took nothing away. I feel the quality I've achieved is up there with biowares.  Basically I aimed for "does this make sense?  is it quality? is it simple but sweet? is it too much? too little?"..

NEXT ON MY LIST - In order of priority

Gheyna – Brecilian Forest, Dalish Camp
Isabela (I heard about some kind of threesome we need to do with 3 chicks) – Denerim, Pearl
Female Guard?? – Fort Drakon, Prison Cell
Anora – Arl Eamon’s Estate, Her Room
Morrigan
Complete rework of Party_Banter FSB removing any reference to PC as a man.

I'm wondering if we should collaborate?  I can go into specifics of what I've done and perhaps you go into your specifics?  Maybe this warrants a new thread where we can exchange ideas and possibly files?

I was thinking about releasing version 1.0b so my files can get beta tested although I'm pretty sure they are solid.

Anyways I have a complete solution for audio, voice over, even adding new music if you want me to share.  I found and read your "equal love" in danexus.  I can rework all of morrigan's audio files based upon your changes to her dialogue.  I'm curious how far you went with her dialogue? Complete changes of sentences or just taking out small parts where she addresses the PC as man? I heard she gets pregnant? I haven't finished the game yet so please not too many spoilers lol!

(Thanks to Avaraen for helping me a great deal with getting my foot in the door with all this.)